I ABSOLUTLY HATE THESE THINGS. I WILL NEVER CARRY one on duty gimme the old PR-24's/ Tonfa's. The ONLY positive thing these do are to MAKE the holder feel "safe" with the ASP's "longer" reach, JUST GIMME the System (sorryAmericans,Vlad & Mikhail Personally Instruct), and eh MAYBE a small sap-jack I WILL RUIN YOUR DAY. I saw in the Video area a DVD on Systima. GET IT!!!, THERE IS NOTHING BETTER,, fuck krav maga.3 years of Vlads Training and well......I KNOW Bruce Lee (the great) would wonder if he'll will, THATS HOW GOOD IT HAS "DOWNLOADED" INTO MY SYSTEM. CHEK IT OUT